Vfacts February 2022

Syndrome · 03-03-2022, 10:10 PM

Three box sedans are becoming a thing of the past

https://www.drive.com.au/news/vfacts...de-the-top-10/

jpd80 · 03-03-2022, 10:20 PM

Hilux out in front with 4,803 sales, that’s an excellent response to buyer demand.

Triton aggressive selling got them into second with 3,811 sales beating out Ranger

Ranger in third with a modest 3,455 sales because New Ranger will be with us soon

Smoke Pursuit · 03-03-2022, 10:45 PM

Ranger and Everest have supply issues in Feb. Wiring looms and chips.

Rob 351 · 04-03-2022, 07:29 AM

With the all new Ranger coming mid year, surprised they are still selling as well as they are. Went past a couple of Ford dealers yesterday and they had bugger all stock at all so the next couple of months could be a bit lean.

Bossxr8 · 04-03-2022, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

Ranger and Everest have supply issues in Feb. Wiring looms and chips.

Typhoon in the phillipines caused a lot of damage at the supplier. Not sure how much production they lost, but it will need to be made back up.

I think the first half of the year might be tight supply wise, until it opens up in the second half.

Dr Smith · 04-03-2022, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Typhoon in the phillipines caused a lot of damage at the supplier. Not sure how much production they lost, but it will need to be made back up.

I think the first half of the year might be tight supply wise, until it opens up in the second half.

Ironic how Victorian and SA car plants never lost time due to natural disasters.

Japan, Thailand, Philippines have all lost production of vehicles and components due to natural disasters at some point.

Now imagine if Australia had a chip manufacturer to match our Thins and Crinkle cuts...

Bossxr8 · 04-03-2022, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Ironic how Victorian and SA car plants never lost time due to natural disasters.

Japan, Thailand, Philippines have all lost production of vehicles and components due to natural disasters at some point.

Now imagine if Australia had a chip manufacturer to match our Thins and Crinkle cuts...

ESSO gas explosion in the late 90's was one I remember. Shut the plants down for a week or so.

I suppose you can't call that a natural disaster though.

**FTE217** · 04-03-2022, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob 351

With the all new Ranger coming mid year, surprised they are still selling as well as they are. Went past a couple of Ford dealers yesterday and they had bugger all stock at all so the next couple of months could be a bit lean.

its not like pre covid that consumers will sit and wait for replemishing stocks sooner. We all see wait lists are 12mths and more.
Today, consumers due to the long lead times and all will buy what they can get their hands on be it a run out model or not the way I'm seeing things.
Not much choice.

**FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0** · 04-03-2022, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

ESSO gas explosion in the late 90's was one I remember. Shut the plants down for a week or so.

I suppose you can't call that a natural disaster though.

Well, it was 'natural' gas

hayseed · 04-03-2022, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FTE217

Today, consumers due to the long lead times and all will buy what they can get their hands on

Yep. Whoever has Stock Wins.. In the Current Market..

**DFB FGXR6** · 04-03-2022, 04:16 PM

Ford numbers -

Ford EcoSport 0
Ford Endura 0
Ford Escape 77
Ford Everest 652
Ford Fiesta 0
Ford Focus 9
Ford Mondeo 0
Ford Mustang 202
Ford Puma 87
Ford Ranger 4X2 259
Ford Ranger 4X4 3,196
Ford Transit Bus 1
Ford Transit Custom 100
Ford Transit Heavy 27
Ford Total 4,610

jpd80 · 04-03-2022, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Ford numbers -

Ford EcoSport 0
Ford Endura 0
Ford Escape 77
Ford Everest 652
Ford Fiesta 0
Ford Focus 9
Ford Mondeo 0
Ford Mustang 202
Ford Puma 87
Ford Ranger 4X2 259
Ford Ranger 4X4 3,196
Ford Transit Bus 1
Ford Transit Custom 100
Ford Transit Heavy 27
Ford Total 4,610

A month where Ranger and Everest are close to 90% of sales….

**DFB FGXR6** · 04-03-2022, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

A month where Ranger and Everest are close to 90% of sales….

Puma deserves way more than that, Escape too.

Mustang seems ok all things considered.

Dr Smith · 04-03-2022, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

ESSO gas explosion in the late 90's was one I remember. Shut the plants down for a week or so.

I suppose you can't call that a natural disaster though.

Depends on if you had cold showers

if your hot water unit was gas or electric...

Dr Smith · 04-03-2022, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hayseed

Yep. Whoever has Stock Wins.. In the Current Market..

Yep, collecting a van from service dept and when I asked if they could value it for a new Transit Custom the salesman apologised and said they had no idea when a new one would be built and no real point in determining the trade-in until a supply date was set.

They had 3 Raptors awaiting hand-over and one Transit Custom which no-one could remember when it was ordered off the top of their head and another Custom Sport in the holding yard. In fact they are lucky if they can deliver a couple Customs a month. And looking at 100 sales Aust-wide in total for Feb you can see why.

danzvtil · 04-03-2022, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hayseed

Yep. Whoever has Stock Wins.. In the Current Market..

And the winner is china.

Bossxr8 · 05-03-2022, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Puma deserves way more than that, Escape too.

Mustang seems ok all things considered.

Getting supply out of europe is like getting blood out of a stone. FoE have been the hardest hit in terms of semi-conductor shortages.

It would be interesting to see how many they could actually sell if they had supply. Probably won’t know until later in the year when supply catches up.

jpd80 · 05-03-2022, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Getting supply out of europe is like getting blood out of a stone. FoE have been the hardest hit in terms of semi-conductor shortages.

It would be interesting to see how many they could actually sell if they had supply. Probably won’t know until later in the year when supply catches up.

I have a feeling that supply is going to remain tight for the rest of this year…
Pity Ford couldn’t get those loss making Chinese plants to build some RHD vehicles for Australia…

Dr Terry · 05-03-2022, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

ESSO gas explosion in the late 90's was one I remember. Shut the plants down for a week or so.

I suppose you can't call that a natural disaster though.

What about union strikes, can they be termed a "natural disaster" ?

Dr Terry

jpd80 · 05-03-2022, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Terry

What about union strikes, can they be termed a "natural disaster" ?

Dr Terry

Are strikes even a thing anymore?

Most are grateful to just have a job..,,,

prydey · 05-03-2022, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Puma deserves way more than that, Escape too.

Mustang seems ok all things considered.

Anyone know if escape and puma are supply limited as well?

jpd80 · 05-03-2022, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

Anyone know if escape and puma are supply limited as well?

Absolutely, Ford Aus was supposed to have more supply by now…

Dr Smith · 06-03-2022, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by prydey

Anyone know if escape and puma are supply limited as well?

Put it this way, I cancelled our Escape order while the car freighter was sailing between Freemantle and Melb and the dealer gave me back my deposit within an hour of official cancellation...and it was sold the next day.

Last year only 1673 got sold Australia and there's no dealer demos, that's not even 10 Escapes per dealer for the whole year....and it's worse so far this year.
Ford 2021 Sales:
Ford EcoSport 1
Ford Endura 23
Ford Escape 1,673
Ford Everest 8,359
Ford Fiesta 342
Ford Focus 735
Ford Mondeo 4
Ford Mustang 2,827
Ford Puma 3,218
Ford Ranger 4X2 4,293
Ford Ranger 4X4 45,986
Ford Transit Bus 168
Ford Transit Custom 2,488
Ford Transit Heavy 1,263
Ford Total 71,380

hackney · 06-03-2022, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Put it this way, I cancelled our Escape order while the car freighter was sailing between Freemantle and Melb and the dealer gave me back my deposit within an hour of official cancellation...and it was sold the next day.

Last year only 1673 got sold Australia and there's no dealer demos, that's not even 10 Escapes per dealer for the whole year....and it's worse so far this year.
Ford 2021 Sales:
Ford EcoSport 1
Ford Endura 23
Ford Escape 1,673
Ford Everest 8,359
Ford Fiesta 342
Ford Focus 735
Ford Mondeo 4
Ford Mustang 2,827
Ford Puma 3,218
Ford Ranger 4X2 4,293
Ford Ranger 4X4 45,986
Ford Transit Bus 168
Ford Transit Custom 2,488
Ford Transit Heavy 1,263
Ford Total 71,380

Seems indicative across all brands on wait times,one of our family has had a RAV Hybrid on order for just under a year, two price rises on,& still no ETA,he is pulling out of the contract(he can do that btw.)Just a ridiculous state of affairs.

jpd80 · 06-03-2022, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by hackney

Seems indicative across all brands on wait times,one of our family has had a RAV Hybrid on order for just under a year, two price rises on,& still no ETA,he is pulling out of the contract(he can do that btw.)Just a ridiculous state of affairs.

Toyota sold over 20,000 vehicles her last month but still struggles to meet demand…..
What would their figures be like if they could….

Bossxr8 · 07-03-2022, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Terry

What about union strikes, can they be termed a "natural disaster" ?

Dr Terry

Basically a non-issue here. In my 20 + years with the company there was only ever one, 1/2 day strike back in the late 90's.

It's not like it was in the 70's.

Smoke Pursuit · 07-03-2022, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Typhoon in the phillipines caused a lot of damage at the supplier. Not sure how much production they lost, but it will need to be made back up.

I think the first half of the year might be tight supply wise, until it opens up in the second half.

They have a lot of the cars sitting over there waiting for parts on the grass. I believe the numbers in the thousands.

It also means we miss out on a heap of Wildtrak X's as the people assigned to those fit outs are now in the field retrofitting Everest's / Ranger's with parts they were missing off the line.

bathurst77 · 08-03-2022, 07:20 PM

Kia Stinger (314)
Ford Mustang (202)

HSVKILLA · 09-03-2022, 05:21 AM

1142 Rangers were sold here in Nz in February

kenj · 09-03-2022, 08:53 AM

Wait times for cars will compound even further with so many cars lost during the floods in Qld and NSW, they all have to be replaced with non existent stock.