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Join Date: Jan 2005
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SHE'S ALIVE!!!! AFTER 5 Weeks 1 Day !! Ill post pics ASAP!!! took us 7 hours but yes its finally done, still need a few things done, but she started!!
we ran into 1 problem along the way near completion, no spark, we were like umm wtf? checked the plug going into the coil (2 wires) 1 wasnt touching, ended up plug was rooted, wen we pulled it out it was damaged, so we cut the plug n made our own ends, n yea took 1 hour, real cramped room n hard to get to,, but she fired up after connecting the new replacment wires up, now i just needa no a few other questions, dont want to stuff this one up!!! 1) we put in 5 litres of that valvoline run in oil, and its THIN as CRAP!!!! the motors ticking like crazy and oil compression guage after car warmed up was on the 2nd notch, n went up raised the throttle a tiny bit, normal yeah?? and how long should i leave it idling for and wot are recomended precautions eg wen driving 2) also i was told it will be a bit smoky till the rings settle, coz i was revving it to 2000rpm n slowly creeping it to 2000rpm, no more...and it wasnt puffing it out but it was just very light blue smoke not big chunks wen doing so, and continued doing so for the 15 mins it was on (only when applying throttle not on idle 3) the lifters ticking there @$$ off, when will they settle? or wont they till i use a thicker oil?, i forgot to soak them in oil b4 putting them in, woops, so will i have to take it for a drive for the lifters to settle? havent driven it yet, need to put bonnet on, fix up gear shifter, n thats it! be cruising tomoz night for sure!!! RIP Oil Burning Motor !!! - Grechie
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good work, just take it easy, your allowed to put some what of a load on her, just not to much
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Melbourne-DEER PARK
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please dont tell me you used that valvoline only 30w oil? there is a penrite 1 for running in and its 20w 50 use that 1. keep it in for 500km then put in gtx3 and then at 1000kms you can change again and leave it for 5000kms, and regards to how long to idle it the more you idle it while running in the more you will glaze up your bores and will result in using oil. when we rebuild engines at work (full reco) when we get em started we only run em for 2 mins and then stop it check the usual oil and that and then take it out on the road not far just some load on her. try find some hills and windy roads.
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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great new's grechie
![]() yer mate NO FLOGING well not till the engine's run in id say the lifter's will be ticking because of the thin oil plus if i was you id take the rocker cover off and throw some directly over them hope it help's cant wait for pic's ![]() |
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She needs premium dude...
Join Date: Dec 2004
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If you have oil coming out of the holes in the top of the rockers then the lifters should be fine and quieten down after a few minutes.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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hey guys, yea its quieted down now, which isgood, ill upload some stuff now
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() n heres a video we did of it idling , n only condensation came out, i defently wont miss burning oil ![]() http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...t=MVI_1955.flv
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well done grechie
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nice one gretch.... cant wait to check it out..
oil burning engines suck....cant wait for my new one to be finished:P |
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Good stuff mate
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dude why do u have an xf console in your car? lol
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we took the lid off to take out the console but i gotta put it back on, also its a EA fairmont console, as thats wot the car was back in the day, i took it for a spin, and yea it feels good, gfetting used to the clutch, it bites later on as ur releasing, havent stalled it yet tho haha
im to scared to rev it past 2k, and this valvoline run in oil is to thin lol!, ive waited so long n wen i took it for a drive . i was so wrapped lol...
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awww thats mad man. congratulations time to take it out and hold it on the rev limiter lol j/k.
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sorry, it looks scarily similar to an xf one, and my screen was dark, my apologies lol
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Great news mate. I can't wait to get mine back together again *sigh*
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thanks everyone, im going to go for a little cruise in it tonite to get to know it better lol, n run in hopefully about 60-80 more kays on it, (currently @ 55km's since its been in)
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gday Grechie
were you out for a drive tonight about 2.30 -3 pm driving along the road that comes from werribee to the highway heading tawards werribee you had a vn or vp commy right up ya clacker your car looks great coming tawards ya if it was you jason
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Looks Sweet mate good work!
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I hope you didnt let it idle for more than 1 or 2 minutes. Motors need LOAD to bed in. Idling glazes the bores and is not advised. Get it started and get some WOT load onto the motor from 2500-4000rpm. Vary the rpm, but LOAD it up.
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Correct. The more load (repeat: load, not thrashing) that is placed on a new engine, the better. You need everything to seal properly, otherwise, once you do start thrashing, she'll fall apart.
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i havent thrashed her at all,. but the first time she started, we did let it idle for a while, probly the reason why we can smell oil at the lights wen i stop n stuff, will it eventually go away?
also took her for a long as drive tonite on ther highway varying speeds from 90 to 110 then goin back round the st's n only revving to 2500 rpm etc, racked up 372k's with no thrashing....
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yeah, load, (more exactly) cylinder pressure forces the rings against the bore to make them seal properly before the rough hone surface is glazed over, therefore, not able to bed the rings anymore
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bah, bounce it off the limiter a bit. She'll be right. They love it
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You can safely take it upto 3000rpm. Drive it in a range of speed zones, 40, 50, 60, 80 for the first 1000-1500kms. Try to stay away from 100 and do not stay at one constant speed for ages (i.e: Melb to Geelong). This means drive it as much as possible around Melbourne just to clock up the K's. Then you can increase the rev's to about 4500.
After you've driven about 100 K's on the motor, dump the oil and change the oil filter. Then do the same thing at 1000 K's. This helps to get rid of any left over grime when the block was cleaned up. Great work mate, it's ready for another 300,000 K's of travel.
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sorry are u saying put it under high load to bed the rings in? or r u syaing coz i idled it for to long and glazed the bore that its not possible to bed the rings in any more?
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yep, the ring spring tension against the bores is very minimal, 99% of ring pressure comes from cylinder gases in behind the rings forcing them against the bores. The window of opportunity for a honed bore to properly shape the rings to fit is tiny, you have to bed the rings in the first few km, once the honed surface is gone, thats how it will stay....
dont stress, it'll b fine, youve done exactly what did when i bedded my donk in, but i did not know of the above info at that time... |
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so im screwed there not gonna bed in now?
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